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		<title>By: iJump.co.nz &#187; Is Social Media becoming a turn-off? (Guest post by Sam Schuurman)</title>
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		<dc:creator>iJump.co.nz &#187; Is Social Media becoming a turn-off? (Guest post by Sam Schuurman)</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jan 2010 18:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] their own purple cow. For truly great businesses social media may have been a new opportunity but it wasn&#8217;t a revolution. The companies who grabbed our hearts and minds before social media came along are the same ones [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] their own purple cow. For truly great businesses social media may have been a new opportunity but it wasn&#8217;t a revolution. The companies who grabbed our hearts and minds before social media came along are the same ones [...]</p>
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		<title>By: socialsammy</title>
		<link>http://www.ithnk.com/2009/11/11/social-media-aint-no-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-81</link>
		<dc:creator>socialsammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 13 Nov 2009 03:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I agree with the &quot;platforms change marketing doesn&#039;t&quot; concept in theory, however I believe in reality the social web has definitely forced many marketers to re-assess how they interact with customers. Theoretical marketing preaches customer centric business practice and consumer involvement but over the years the reality is that marketers have taken short-cuts to meet budgets set by people who don&#039;t care about customers (accountants haha), again this seems to be Dans point.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Moving on...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;If we&#039;re talking about new platforms AR (augmented reality) is going to be a HUGE platform. I&#039;m not sure how it fits inside the business renaissance that the social web has brought to us. My guess is that it will further enhance the focus on creating a richer, meaningful and personal customer experiences. Check out this amazing post about AR by Gary P Hayes...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmented-reality-business-models/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmente...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;This is one from the HBR&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/sviokla/2009/10/how_will_augmented_reality_aff.html?cm_mmc=npv-_-TOPICEMAIL-_-NOV_2009-_-INNOVATION&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/sviokla/2009/1...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly there are loads of other applications also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree with the &#8220;platforms change marketing doesn&#39;t&#8221; concept in theory, however I believe in reality the social web has definitely forced many marketers to re-assess how they interact with customers. Theoretical marketing preaches customer centric business practice and consumer involvement but over the years the reality is that marketers have taken short-cuts to meet budgets set by people who don&#39;t care about customers (accountants haha), again this seems to be Dans point.</p>
<p>Moving on&#8230;</p>
<p>If we&#39;re talking about new platforms AR (augmented reality) is going to be a HUGE platform. I&#39;m not sure how it fits inside the business renaissance that the social web has brought to us. My guess is that it will further enhance the focus on creating a richer, meaningful and personal customer experiences. Check out this amazing post about AR by Gary P Hayes&#8230;</p>
<p><a href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmented-reality-business-models/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmente.." rel="nofollow">http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmente..</a>.</p>
<p>This is one from the HBR</p>
<p><a href="http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/sviokla/2009/10/how_will_augmented_reality_aff.html?cm_mmc=npv-_-TOPICEMAIL-_-NOV_2009-_-INNOVATION" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/sviokla/2009/1.." rel="nofollow">http://blogs.harvardbusiness.org/sviokla/2009/1..</a>.</p>
<p>Clearly there are loads of other applications also.</p>
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		<title>By: SteffenRusten</title>
		<link>http://www.ithnk.com/2009/11/11/social-media-aint-no-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-80</link>
		<dc:creator>SteffenRusten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve more or less got me summed up quite nicely there Sam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think renaissance is a good way of putting it. It&#039;s true that there are shifts in the balance of power between corporations and customers, but if anything that&#039;s been a back and forth over the last 100-150 years. I believe reputation and peer opinion has always been important, it&#039;s just exciting now to see that word of mouth is reaching such a staggering level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I quite like the video on this post, titled &#039;Platforms Change, Marketing is the Same&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Chris Brogan has a good take on it too. &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.chrisbrogan.com/marketing-and-how-social-software-aligns/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.chrisbrogan.com/marketing-and-how-so...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers to both of you, debates like this really get the thought process going. Great way of moving forward. At least, it is for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;ve more or less got me summed up quite nicely there Sam.</p>
<p>I think renaissance is a good way of putting it. It&#39;s true that there are shifts in the balance of power between corporations and customers, but if anything that&#39;s been a back and forth over the last 100-150 years. I believe reputation and peer opinion has always been important, it&#39;s just exciting now to see that word of mouth is reaching such a staggering level.</p>
<p>I quite like the video on this post, titled &#39;Platforms Change, Marketing is the Same&#39; <a href="http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874</a></p>
<p>Chris Brogan has a good take on it too. <a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/marketing-and-how-social-software-aligns/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.chrisbrogan.com/marketing-and-how-so.." rel="nofollow">http://www.chrisbrogan.com/marketing-and-how-so..</a>.</p>
<p>Cheers to both of you, debates like this really get the thought process going. Great way of moving forward. At least, it is for me.</p>
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		<title>By: socialsammy</title>
		<link>http://www.ithnk.com/2009/11/11/social-media-aint-no-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-47</link>
		<dc:creator>socialsammy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 21:24:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>If we&#039;re talking about new platforms AR (augmented reality) is going to be a HUGE platform. I&#039;m not sure how it fits inside the business renaissance that the social web has brought to us. My guess is that it will further enhance the focus on creating a richer, meaningful and personal customers experience. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmented-reality-business-models/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmente...&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Clearly there are loads of other applications also.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>If we&#39;re talking about new platforms AR (augmented reality) is going to be a HUGE platform. I&#39;m not sure how it fits inside the business renaissance that the social web has brought to us. My guess is that it will further enhance the focus on creating a richer, meaningful and personal customers experience. </p>
<p><a href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmented-reality-business-models/" rel="nofollow"></a><a href="http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmente.." rel="nofollow">http://www.personalizemedia.com/16-top-augmente..</a>.</p>
<p>Clearly there are loads of other applications also.</p>
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		<title>By: SteffenRusten</title>
		<link>http://www.ithnk.com/2009/11/11/social-media-aint-no-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-46</link>
		<dc:creator>SteffenRusten</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 17:16:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You&#039;ve more or less got me summed up quite nicely there Sam.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I think renaissance is a good way of putting it. It&#039;s true that there are shifts in the balance of power between corporations and customers, but if anything that&#039;s been a back and forth over the last 100-150 years. I believe reputation and peer opinion has always been important, it&#039;s just exciting now to see that word of mouth is reaching such a staggering level.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I quite like the video on this post, titled &#039;Platforms Change, Marketing is the Same&#039; &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Cheers to both of you, debates like this really get the thought process going. Great way of moving forward. At least, it is for me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#39;ve more or less got me summed up quite nicely there Sam.</p>
<p>I think renaissance is a good way of putting it. It&#39;s true that there are shifts in the balance of power between corporations and customers, but if anything that&#39;s been a back and forth over the last 100-150 years. I believe reputation and peer opinion has always been important, it&#39;s just exciting now to see that word of mouth is reaching such a staggering level.</p>
<p>I quite like the video on this post, titled &#39;Platforms Change, Marketing is the Same&#39; <a href="http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874" rel="nofollow">http://www.socialmediatoday.com/SMC/141874</a></p>
<p>Cheers to both of you, debates like this really get the thought process going. Great way of moving forward. At least, it is for me.</p>
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		<title>By: Sam Schuurman</title>
		<link>http://www.ithnk.com/2009/11/11/social-media-aint-no-revolution/comment-page-1/#comment-45</link>
		<dc:creator>Sam Schuurman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 12 Nov 2009 04:32:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This might sound like a cop-out but I think you&#039;re both right!&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Let me explain...&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Make no mistake we are in the middle of a &quot;marketing renascence&quot; where as Dan has said corporations are no longer able to trick you, dupe you or deceive you and where personal interaction and human connections are king.&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;As for whether this constituents a revolution well that depends on whether or not your were an open, honest, transparent, inviting, personable and customer focused company before social media came along. If you were, then all social media has done is take your great personal service online and given you new tools to help you amplify that service and get your customers more involved in what you do. (this is what I believe @steffen_ was getting at)&lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;However, if you were a robotic, deceitful and dishonest company that only told the truth only when it was profitable for you to do so then the game for you has been flipped on it&#039;s head. As Dan mentioned boycotts &amp; backlash are inevitable if you continue in your old patterns of behaviour.  &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;I believe one of the biggest changes is that consumers are showing companies that they really care and are willing to help the good companies become even better, the wise companies will be the ones who embrace this co-creation. &lt;br&gt;&lt;br&gt;Never before have companies been able to get their customers to actually help them create add-ons to their products (e.g. widgets &amp; apps)  or gain feedback from their consumers around the globe in real time - it is the speed and dynamic nature of the customer-company interaction which I believe adds the most value to social media. (postal surveys are dead).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This might sound like a cop-out but I think you&#39;re both right!</p>
<p>Let me explain&#8230;</p>
<p>Make no mistake we are in the middle of a &#8220;marketing renascence&#8221; where as Dan has said corporations are no longer able to trick you, dupe you or deceive you and where personal interaction and human connections are king.</p>
<p>As for whether this constituents a revolution well that depends on whether or not your were an open, honest, transparent, inviting, personable and customer focused company before social media came along. If you were, then all social media has done is take your great personal service online and given you new tools to help you amplify that service and get your customers more involved in what you do. (this is what I believe @steffen_ was getting at)</p>
<p>However, if you were a robotic, deceitful and dishonest company that only told the truth only when it was profitable for you to do so then the game for you has been flipped on it&#39;s head. As Dan mentioned boycotts &#038; backlash are inevitable if you continue in your old patterns of behaviour.  </p>
<p>I believe one of the biggest changes is that consumers are showing companies that they really care and are willing to help the good companies become even better, the wise companies will be the ones who embrace this co-creation. </p>
<p>Never before have companies been able to get their customers to actually help them create add-ons to their products (e.g. widgets &#038; apps)  or gain feedback from their consumers around the globe in real time &#8211; it is the speed and dynamic nature of the customer-company interaction which I believe adds the most value to social media. (postal surveys are dead).</p>
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